tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17312454.post115115503603864631..comments2023-10-07T15:01:23.872+01:00Comments on Not Little England: LabourHome - economic illiteracy and a strange type of liberalism?MatGBhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02821264556751176639noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17312454.post-1151612097850297482006-06-29T21:14:00.000+01:002006-06-29T21:14:00.000+01:00Soliloquy: I believe this same scenario is necessa...<I>Soliloquy: I believe this same scenario is necessary within the context of the NHS - politicians in general should have no right to start recommending ideas, be they left or right-wing ones - rather, the government must be freely willing to allow those on the ground the opportunity to implement their own resourcefulness as solutions.</I> <BR/><BR/>Um, yeah... That's, um, the extreme liberal position, right? Politicians do nothing, they just enable others to do stuff, decentralise, stop setting targets, etc.<BR/><BR/>What is this guy doing writing for Labour? <BR/><BR/><A></A><A></A>Posted by<A><B> </B></A><A HREF="http://not-little-england.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow" TITLE="matbowles at gmail dot com">MatGB</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17312454.post-1151610327147192432006-06-29T20:45:00.000+01:002006-06-29T20:45:00.000+01:00I followed that link and arrived at that page. He'...I followed that link and arrived at that page. He's got no idea what he's talking about - I guess that's Labour at its finest...but I followed one of the comments, and arrived at:<BR/>http://www.labourhome.org/story/2006/6/27/92048/5076<BR/><BR/>That's what I call one hell of a right-wing Blairite... <BR/><BR/><A></A><A></A>Posted by<A><B> </B></A><A HREF="http://not-little-england.blogspot.com/2006/06/labourhome-economic-illiteracy-and.html" REL="nofollow" TITLE="pauliej at parliament dot uk">john p</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17312454.post-1151188020154311472006-06-24T23:27:00.000+01:002006-06-24T23:27:00.000+01:00Um, I can't remember who said it (Galbraith?), but...Um, I can't remember who said it (Galbraith?), but I think the best definition goes like this;<BR/><BR/>'As much state as necesary, as little state as possible.'<BR/><BR/>I'd say that beveridge etc. sort of go against the grain in this respect. <BR/><BR/><A></A><A></A>Posted by<A><B> </B></A><A HREF="http://newerlabour.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow" TITLE="redflag85 at hotmail dot com">el tom</A><br /><br /><small><i>Link edited by Mat to make it work, can recommend Tom's blog so the link needs to work well</i></small>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17312454.post-1151273606637095902006-06-25T23:13:00.000+01:002006-06-25T23:13:00.000+01:00Tom, can't recall seing that quote before, but the...Tom, can't recall seing that quote before, but then, I'm awful at quotations generally, but overall, I think Beveridge was a good thing as it was intended as an enabling safety net that was intentionally designed to benefit those who actually contributed more.<BR/><BR/>"little me", yes, you're right in a way, but taxation over all is to be resisted except where needed, but where it is needed, it should be equitable and based on ability to pay, ergo income tax is more liberal, to me, than sales taxes, and especially Council Tax, which is a very blunt instrument.<BR/><BR/>Chris, I suspect you're right, the US use (by both sides) of the term "liberal" is completely against any sensible definition... <BR/><BR/><A></A><A></A>Posted by<A><B> </B></A><A HREF="http://not-little-england.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow" TITLE="matbowles at gmail dot com">MatGB</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17312454.post-1151249658674875642006-06-25T16:34:00.000+01:002006-06-25T16:34:00.000+01:00Perhaps he means the american corruption of the te...Perhaps he means the american corruption of the term Liberal as a code word for big S Socialism, Socialism having become discredited they need to steal another political term as a cover for it. <BR/><BR/><A></A><A></A>Posted by<A><B> </B></A><A HREF="http://strange_stuff.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow" TITLE="">chris</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17312454.post-1151221024461694702006-06-25T08:37:00.000+01:002006-06-25T08:37:00.000+01:00If liberalism is about making your own decisions, ...If liberalism is about making your own decisions, wouldn't an an increase in income tax be illiberal? The more people are taxed, the less they can decide on their own. <BR/><BR/><A></A><A></A>Posted by<A><B> </B></A>little meAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com